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Post by *~LK17~SimbasMate~* on Jan 9, 2008 14:28:46 GMT -5
when simba was on the rock in tlk 2 singing to kiara
Even thoughs who are gone are with us as we go on your journey has only begun...
Tears of pain tears of joy one thing nothing can destroy is our pride deep inside we are one...
i just noticed that when he says
tears of pain- he is thinking about his father and kopas death tears of joy- kiara came... like after all that happened in his life he got anewborn daughter...
then even thoughs who are gone- his father and kopa wow thats sad i just noticed that ... lololol
wait this to one thing nothing can destroy is our pride- scar you think lol
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Post by Prince Simba on Jan 11, 2008 0:37:14 GMT -5
Those are good observations, I definitely agree with you! As to the "one thing nothing can destroy", yeah, I think it could be Scar, and Zira too. You got me thinking about the song more, and I have some things to add: "things don't always go the way we planned" - Simba may be referring to how he was going to be King, but then Scar killed Mufasa "one family under the sun" - this could be another reference to Mufasa, since he appears in the sun at the beginning of TLKSP
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Post by knarrly on Jan 11, 2008 8:45:17 GMT -5
the "one family under the sun" could also be a future prophesy about the two prides being united...
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Post by Rev CUBBYKOVU on Jan 11, 2008 15:29:46 GMT -5
one family under teh sun also means that EVERYONE AND EVERYTHING ISH one as in one being working together in harmony I tink wow I never reallyanalysed teh songs until now
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Post by KiarasMate on Jan 11, 2008 20:59:07 GMT -5
lol, the whole song was summed up at the end of the movie when Kiara referrenced the whole "A wise King once told me, We Are One" speech. Like Knarrly said, that song foreshadowed the whole ending of the movie. lol. (been watching too much special features and interviews on the DVD) hehe.
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Post by *~LK17~SimbasMate~* on Jan 12, 2008 22:36:29 GMT -5
yes you have km lol thats why i just noticed that lolololol but he does talk about kopa you no dont forget about him
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Post by Jamit on Jan 12, 2008 22:46:38 GMT -5
No, he doesn't talk about Kopa. He says "tears of pain." Could this include Kopa? Maybe, but I don't believe for a moment that was how it was written. It is a direct refferance to the first movie, that is how it was written. Don't fool yourself into thinking something else. Unless I have no clue what I am talking about and the song writer(s) have said they were thinking about Kopa. Do we know if Kopa was killed? Heck, we don't really know he existed until we see some more info on him. But I'll save all that for my podcast.
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Post by *~LK17~SimbasMate~* on Jan 12, 2008 22:49:36 GMT -5
read what i found and youll see
I Found It Online It Is True I Did Not Write This
Kopa’s Story
The sun was shining, the savannah was buzzing with the talk of a new cub. Its name was Kopa, and it was Simba and Nala’s first cub. The cub was a male, and he was very healthy. Simba and Nala were very happy. Nala called him “her little angel”, and Simba smiled and said “you will be king one day.” The next day was a hot, sunny day in the pride lands. All the animals gathered around pride rock for the dedication of little Kopa. Rafiki smiled, as he blessed the young cub. Kopa looked up, and smiled, just as his father had so many years ago. Rafiki held up the small lion, and said proudly, “it is time”, as he showed all of the pride lands the soon to be king. A few weeks later, Kopa was talking, and acting like any normal cub of his age. Simba was proud, but also very protective, because of what he went through as a cub. The whole pride was very happy, especially Nala, who would almost never let him out of her site. Yes, they were happy, but the happiness would not last. One day, Simba was giving Kopa a pouncing lesson out near the gorge, were Simba had witness Scar kill his father. Because of this, Simba told Kopa to stay away from the edge, but being a young, curious cub, Kopa did not listen. He was much like his father as a cub, very curious, and very brave. Simba told his son to stay low to the ground, and not to make a sound. He looked right at Zazu, who was very embarrassed, being nothing more than a tool for teaching, and told him to turn around. Simba then told Kopa to sneak up on Zazu, and pounce on him. As Kopa ran up to pounce onto Zazu, he hit a rock, and tumbled head over paws over the cliff. As he fell, he managed to grab a tree branch, and hold on. Simba ran to the side, panicking, he shouted “Hold on Kopa!” as he reached for Kopa’s paw. Simba held on, and told Zazu to go get help. Visions of his father, falling to his death raced through Simba’s head. Simba was telling Kopa to reach for his paw, and that he will pull him to safety. Just as he got a grip onto Kopa, a wind blew, and blew dust into Simba’s eyes. Simba tried to hold on, but he could not get a grip. As Kopa slipped out of his paws, he began to fall. As he fell, Kopa shouted to Simba “I love you” Simba shouted “No!” and ran down the gorge to find his son. As he reached Kopa, he saw that he was not well. Kopa was still alive, but slipping away fast. Simba told his dieing son to relax, and that he would be fine. Kopa replied “I am sorry dad, I triiied” as he gasped for air. Kopa’s final words, as his spirit left his body were “I looovve you daaaadd” as he breathed his final breath. Simba, now crying, shouted “Kopa, Kopa, speak to me” but it was no use, Kopa was gone, and Simba could not do anything to change this. Simba sat, and wept for his lost son, and as he did, the sky began to fill with black, storm clouds, and in one of those clouds, was a sad Mufasa. As Simba went home, carrying his dead son’s body on his back, he shouted to Mufasa “Where were you?” “Why did you not prevent this?” A very sad image of Mufasa appeared, and replied “Simba, I have no control over these things, but you must stay strong.” At that moment, an image of young Kopa appeared to Simba, telling him “Do not be sad, and don’t blame yourself. I am in a better place.” “And remember, I will always love you daddy” and both images disappeared. Simba returned to pride rock, with tears in his eyes. When Nala saw Kopa’s limp, lifeless body, she cried uncontrollably, screaming, “No, No, Not my Son, Not my Baby!” As Simba tried to comfort his mate, he himself began to cry again. The whole pride mourned the loss, and everyone cried themselves to sleep that night. That night, Simba had a dream, about his dead son, in which he told Simba that “Everything is fine, and everything will work out in the end” “I love you father, goodbye” At that moment Simba woke up, and so did Nala. Simba explained the dream to Nala, and she replied “I just has the same dream” Neither one knew what Kopa meant by everything would work out, but they thought nothing of it, and went back to sleep. The next day, a funeral was held for you Kopa. As Rafiki blessed the young cub’s body, Simba began to cry, but just as he started crying, he could faintly hear the sounds of Kopa innocent voice, saying “Don’t be sad, I will be with you always.” Nala cried, but she felt sort of funny. She felt the same way now as when she was pregnant with Kopa. But, grieving, she thought nothing of it, and proceeded to say goodbye to her first born cub. However, this story does have a silver lining, because that night, as the pride tried to cope with their loss, Nala finally realized that she was again pregnant. She informed Simba of the great news, that they again will have a cub. Although Simba was happy, he now knew what Kopa meant by everything would work out in the end. He now vowed to never let anything happen to the new cub, and to never forget his lost little boy.
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Post by Jamit on Jan 12, 2008 23:05:25 GMT -5
That is actually what you call fan fiction. Not sure if you've heard of it... Just because you didn't write it does not make it true. I can only see that on a freewebs site. Pretty much, it is as fake as that "interview" with Simba and Nala.
I stand firm, there is no proof (as far as I can see) those books are canon.
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Post by *~LK17~SimbasMate~* on Jan 12, 2008 23:09:22 GMT -5
heellooo i found it on the walt disney site i did not make it up...... i found it one yr ago idk if its still there
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Post by Jamit on Jan 12, 2008 23:18:37 GMT -5
Link?
I've done a number of searches and I can only find that in one place. There is nothing on wikipedia which references that story.
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Post by *~LK17~SimbasMate~* on Jan 12, 2008 23:20:17 GMT -5
hold on let me find it in my yahoo.....
(it might take long got 300 or more mail some i didnt check wait 2 min k
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Post by Jamit on Jan 12, 2008 23:23:37 GMT -5
The suspense is killing me.
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Post by *~LK17~SimbasMate~* on Jan 13, 2008 12:08:30 GMT -5
well now you have to wait... lol ima post evry tlk 2 and the other ones pic on this forum
evry move from the songs to the show lololololol more suspense lol i did not find it yet it might be the next 25 left
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