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Post by Furaha on Dec 18, 2005 17:30:26 GMT -5
I'm bored...Do you think Scar got a place in the stars? Kovu said "Do you think Scar's up there?" And, it seemed like Mufasa wanted Kiara to be queen and Scar wanted Kovu to be king. You know how Mufasa told Rafiki about the plan for Kiara and Kovu to be together...Maybe it wasn't all Mufasa's idea. I dunno. Makes you think...
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Post by knarrly on Dec 18, 2005 22:09:04 GMT -5
I'm bored...Do you think Scar got a place in the stars? Kovu said "Do you think Scar's up there?" And, it seemed like Mufasa wanted Kiara to be queen and Scar wanted Kovu to be king. You know how Mufasa told Rafiki about the plan for Kiara and Kovu to be together...Maybe it wasn't all Mufasa's idea. I dunno. Makes you think... I don't think he did get his place in the stars. He "stole" his crown. Simba was the true king all along, not Scar.
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Post by Furaha on Dec 18, 2005 22:13:15 GMT -5
Yeah... I dunno...I'm kinda leaning both ways...
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Post by Rev CUBBYKOVU on Dec 19, 2005 4:31:45 GMT -5
not sure about that one let me think about it for while
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Post by Rev CUBBYKOVU on Feb 5, 2006 14:27:50 GMT -5
yes he did get a place inb the stars cos at the end of the day Kovu and kiara became king and queen and Scar is never actually mentioned having actually told Zira to train kovu to kill Simba she just does it all she ever actually says is Scar shose kovu to take his place as king and he did
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Post by knarrly on Feb 6, 2006 14:24:16 GMT -5
But the fact still remains that only "kings" could have a place in the stars, right? It doesn't really matter that what Scar wanted -- Kovu taking his place -- happened or not. Scar was never king. He claimed he was king, but Simba was the rightful heir.
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Post by Rev CUBBYKOVU on Feb 10, 2006 17:45:30 GMT -5
ok ok good point er I think when they said kiong they meant any lion that is related to the king lol I dunno OK OK HE DID not lolI cant think of a good arguement
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Post by kingsimba on Feb 11, 2006 23:09:30 GMT -5
I bet that Scar did get his place in the stars.Although he really didn`t desive it.He probily beged Mufasa for a place in the stars that he could call his own.After the song"One of Us"As Kovu was running away here saw the shadows of those he new then there was Scar in the water.I wonder what that means though...
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Post by Rev CUBBYKOVU on Feb 12, 2006 13:30:25 GMT -5
I wonder too now that you mention it . By the way king simba hi My name is kovu and this forum thing is really fun welcome cubbyhug
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Post by kingsimba on Feb 14, 2006 22:46:37 GMT -5
Nice to met you Kovu.YAh you wonder if he did or not
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Post by linda on Feb 18, 2006 11:12:14 GMT -5
Well I have no clue.. But an other thing .. Wheren´t Kiara and Kovu realated? I mean if Kovu´s father was scar who was brother to Mufasa who´s son is Simba who´s daughter is Kiara? Ok maybe a little far-fetched but still ? Just thinking or am I totally of track?
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Post by Rev CUBBYKOVU on Feb 18, 2006 13:30:22 GMT -5
Kovu is not Scars son they make a big point of that
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Post by knarrly on Feb 19, 2006 21:03:45 GMT -5
LOL But more than likely Simba and Nala were related anyway, so.....
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Post by kingsimba on Feb 20, 2006 13:45:41 GMT -5
You know how Scar liked Zira?Well if Zira became Queen Simba would have to call her Aunt Zira.Isnt that weird?
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Post by Furaha on Feb 20, 2006 14:36:48 GMT -5
O.o I have a family tree all worked out so there's no inbreeding or anything...
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Post by kingsimba on Feb 22, 2006 11:50:35 GMT -5
Oh ok thats good
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Post by linda on Feb 22, 2006 13:45:57 GMT -5
Oh really ? I´m sorry .. I´ve only seen " Simbas pride" like five times or so .. but I guess I´ll have to make a change on that, eh ?
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Post by knarrly on Feb 25, 2006 10:09:30 GMT -5
Even Disney, reluctantly, acknowledged in some interview or other that it is extremely unlikely for Simba and Nala NOT to be related. Figure this:
From what we know of lions, in general, there was usually only one male per pride. Any more would cause conflict (i.e. Scar and Mufasa.) The main lion would, um, mate with all the females. In the case of Scar and Mufasa, they were brothers which is why it lasted as long as it did. So, Sarafina had to have been mated by either Scar or Mufasa (...or both...). For the king to allow any other male lion to interfere with his pride is very unlikely. So, that leaves not many scenarios.
1. Mufasa is Nala's father, making her Simba's sister. (Most likely, because of the possessiveness factor.)
2. Scar is Nala's father, which makes her Simba's 1st cousin.
3 Unrealistic scenario: Sarafina was pregnant before she joined the pride, and the father is unknown. Don't think this could be because Mufasa and/or Scar would likely have not accepted the cub.
Whew. LOL I have put waaaaaaaay too much thought into all this.
As for Kovu, he is more than likely Scar's son, even though it is hinted at otherwise. Because of same reasoning above. Kovu was born during the reign of Scar. Scar would not have allowed another male lion in.....which leaves 2 scenarios:
1. Kovu is Scar's son.
2. Zira was pregnant with Kovu before she joined the pride.
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Post by Furaha on Feb 25, 2006 10:20:11 GMT -5
Yeah...I'm taking so much liberties with my fanfics...as if Mufasa would actually let Raha stay in the pride in real life...I have Kovu's father as a rogue that Zira mated with, then Scar made him leave. *Shrug* It's better then my Nala's father theory...
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Post by knarrly on Feb 25, 2006 10:28:21 GMT -5
It's called artistic license You can do what you want with what you write. Other stories are definitely better sounding than the likely scenarios.
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