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Post by ♠Rafiki♠ on Jul 18, 2008 20:06:26 GMT -5
*walks in, shielded by the 1st amendment*
Meh. I don't like scar, and I never will. I always thought he was a punk, even when I was like, 3. I never liked his back-stabbing, and he was a real emo sissy. I will admit that TLK would have been quite different without him, but that's all; I still hate 'im. Irons' voice acting was good, just wasted on a lame character.
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Post by *~LK17~SimbasMate~* on Jul 18, 2008 20:10:47 GMT -5
*cubbyhugs* Someone else agrees.. im going to make a siggy.. Scar haters clubb.. oooo that would be nice.. be back in 5 lol
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Post by jagabor on Jul 18, 2008 20:20:33 GMT -5
I'm a Scar fan. Always will be. But I won't explode at you guys for voicing your opinion.(Especially since my side is winning.) Good luck with your cause, though....whatever it is.
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Post by tearthgrrl on Jul 18, 2008 20:46:57 GMT -5
^Trust me, you don't wanna mess with this guy. (I mean Jag.)
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Post by *~LK17~SimbasMate~* on Jul 18, 2008 21:31:06 GMT -5
o0o trust me no one would want to mess with me when it comes to Simba.. you will try and i will conquer.. lol
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Post by jagabor on Jul 18, 2008 22:11:30 GMT -5
^When it comes to Simba? I have no problem with Simba. And even if I did, it would not help anything. For example, if I were to say something like....
Simba was an annoying, selfish cub, and it took his father's death to change him(And only years after when, he saw Mufasa's Ghost.) I believe it was Abraham who said that those who's change comes from seeing the dead would have never changed otherwise, and thus could never be saved. Therefore, Simba was always an evil little punk.
...But I would never say something like that. It wouldn't make you change your view on Simba if I did, would it? So, are you trying to change others' views on Scar? If so, persue less futile hobbies.
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Post by tearthgrrl on Jul 19, 2008 9:54:07 GMT -5
(See? Wha'd I tell ya?)
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kittykraz13
Adolescent Lion
"Stand in the rain...stand your ground! Stand up when it's all crashing down!"
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Post by kittykraz13 on Jul 19, 2008 11:27:58 GMT -5
Ouch Jag^^ But at least Simba restored the pridelands. Nothing else really matters after that. (kinda)
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Post by tearthgrrl on Jul 19, 2008 14:43:06 GMT -5
Yeah, I have to agree (unless they showed how the hyenas survived) because TLK 2 was basically crap.
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Trace
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Post by Trace on Jul 19, 2008 17:00:51 GMT -5
What's NOT to love about a sexy lion like that? -swoons-
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Post by jagabor on Jul 19, 2008 17:14:31 GMT -5
^Oh, yes. Simba restored the Pride Lands....After being told to by a monkey. Think about it. It took his father and Rafiki to show him that he needed to face his past, and his daughter to show him that he needed to stop fighting with the Outlanders. Did Simba figure out ANYTHING on his own? I mean, he had to be told that Scar killed Mufasa by Scar himself! Nothing personal. I like Simba. I just feel that if you mess with my favorite character, I mess with YOUR'S! So, I could bash any character, really. I could even make a rant about how crappy Scar is, if I was so inclined. But I don't see that happening. I'll defend Scar(as a character) to the end. You all enjoy yourself and the rest of your day, now. P.S. I swear, I'm not usually like this.
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Post by switchback on Jul 19, 2008 18:04:00 GMT -5
Well, I believe Simba had issues that were hard for him to face. (Obviously) He was told to believe that he himself was responsible for his father's death and he fled. Timon and Pumbaa told him to put the past behind him, which he gladly decided to try and do. I think because of this, he repressed his memory to forget. In short, denial.
Because he didn't, or perhaps refused, to remember, he needed others to do it for him. That's why he was told things repeatedly in the movie I think, it shows how he is finally facing up to what he believes he has done and accepting it.
As for TLKII, facing Kovu who is so alike Scar brings back those memories and he is afraid of another repeat of history. He is so focused on stopping this that he is blind to what is really happening around him which is where Kiara comes in. So basically I think Simba is simply confused overall and needs guidance.
Anyway, I like Scar. I'm interested in his background and what happened to make him so twisted. I believe that there's a story to every villian that enforces what they believe in and their actions resulting in that.
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Post by *~LK17~SimbasMate~* on Jul 19, 2008 19:15:05 GMT -5
Doesnt prove anything.. (Smiles) And i still dont care i can get back So bad! but i wouldnt want to
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kittykraz13
Adolescent Lion
"Stand in the rain...stand your ground! Stand up when it's all crashing down!"
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Post by kittykraz13 on Jul 19, 2008 20:23:08 GMT -5
You have really good points Jag. I still like Simba though and Scar is pretty cool too if you go into depths about his brilliances. But...alas....my fav. will always be Kovu^^ <3
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Post by jagabor on Jul 19, 2008 21:09:47 GMT -5
Everyone got the point that I have no problem with Simba, right? I was just trying to make it clear where a stand as a Scar-fan. I cheer for Simba. Like him very much. I just like Scar better, is all. I'm not trying to start a flame war. Here's an idea:
Hey, Simbasmate(May I call you that?). Would you mind telling me why you feel the need to bash my favorite character? Are you just trying to find others who share your opinion? No offense meant, at all.(And get back, if you want. I, unlike my favorite character, don't mind a challenge.)
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Post by tearthgrrl on Jul 19, 2008 21:33:22 GMT -5
Yeah, we all get your point. But it seems like nowadays you've turned into an utter Zazu fan. (What has New York done to you?! Just kidding ;D)
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Post by *~LK17~SimbasMate~* on Jul 19, 2008 21:34:05 GMT -5
yes but for short lk17
i really dont care i just hated what tearthgrrl said.. gives me a whole nother opinion about you.. lol.. And wait i dont do that! i just cant stand scar.. i burned my plushie of him.. Muahaha
<3 Simba forever.. Untill the day i die...
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Post by tearthgrrl on Jul 19, 2008 21:37:06 GMT -5
^Hated which that I said?
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Post by *~LK17~SimbasMate~* on Jul 19, 2008 21:43:58 GMT -5
^Trust me, you don't wanna mess with this guy. (I mean Jag.)
See? Wha'd I tell ya?)
yup thats what..
Anyways forget it.. Lets just stick to the main point of this thread
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Post by tearthgrrl on Jul 19, 2008 22:16:31 GMT -5
Ok then, (but I warn you, this MAY turn out like a battle forum) Scar sucks, and I can give you three reasons. #1: He's a rapist #2: He needs other guys to do his dirty work FOR him. #3: Fanclubs full of outlander lionesses are great, until they start killing people in your name and using that as an excuse. (Which is another way of saying; "Zira, YOU SUCK!")
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