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Post by knarrly on Jan 9, 2007 18:00:12 GMT -5
She could be... *lol*
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Post by Moka on Jan 9, 2007 18:01:41 GMT -5
VERY desperate. ok why do I keep bringing that up LOL
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knarrly
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Post by knarrly on Jan 9, 2007 18:02:22 GMT -5
You tell me! *lol*
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Post by Zig on Jan 9, 2007 19:54:18 GMT -5
well....the rouge was the best story so far but in SP nuka says "he wasn't his son he just took him in" this is still driveing me mad
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Post by ginxu on Jan 9, 2007 20:02:30 GMT -5
Lawl I enjoy reading this
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Post by mpo'Simba on Jan 10, 2007 8:10:22 GMT -5
Ziger is right! We definitely know that Kovu isn't Scar's son, but Nuka is. However, we have no information about Vitani. My opinion is: Axioms - Nuka is Scar's son.
- Kovu isn't Scar's son.
- Vitani is almost the same age as Kovu.
We also know that Kovu was born before Scar was killed by hyenas. Thus, Vitani could be Scar's daughter only if she's elder sister for Kovu. Another way it's obvious that Vitani and Kovu have got the same father. My vision: at first Zira and Scar had Nuka, and then (by some oblvious reason ;D ) Zira and unknown lion had Vitani and Kovu, and at last Scar accept em. And in real world older males always expel young males. And "young" when they become "adult enough" are afrade to come back and find another pride to fight and have a control over lionesses. In real world there exists a perfect procedure to avoid degeneration. Lions and Lionesses are different systems with different aims. Lions and Lionesses have got "surviving curves"like this: Red for females and black for males. Males could survive only if they found themselves in appropriate enviroment. Various, lionesses could live eveywhere. But some sort of cataclism could make almost all lionesses die, but not all lions. Lions (all males) are needed in extrimly fast changing enviroment. Lionesses are needed for the lions as species of animals. I hope you did understand me dear Knarrly
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Post by knarrly on Jan 10, 2007 22:31:21 GMT -5
debate! *rubs hands* *lol* In the wild, it is said that the male lions traditionally mate all the females and kill the cubs that are not theirs when they take over. (from the previous "ruler", shall we say.) Point of example: Why were Simba and Nala the ONLY cubs in the Pride at that time? Which leads you to assume that Simba, obviously, is Mufasa's. Nala, though.... she could either be Mufasa's OR she could be the product of Sarafina being pregnant at the time of Mufasa taking over. Meaning, either Nala is Mufasa's daughter, or Mufasa did not realize she was pregnant. (oops *hehe*) So, he assumed she was his. So, this would tell us that Mufasa took over as king probably just before the onset of the movie.... We also have to assume that Sarafina has been with the pride a while, since her and Sarabi are childhood friends (and most likely, sisters as well.) *Point of interest: Disney acknowledged that Nala had to be either Mufasa's or Scar's!* So, how this relates to Kovu? When Scar took over the Pride, he would have now mated all the lionesses and killed all the old ruler's cubs. Simba was ordered to be killed by the hyenas. Nala kind of skirts this rule, though.... In theory, Scar would not want his Kingdom to be taken by a cub not his but she was female so he might have let it slide. So, truly, he would not let Nuka, or Kovu stay around if they were not his, because they could try to take the throne from him. Disney had to clean this fact up though (and I heard THAT directly from one of the Disney animators, BTW *lol* - the original scripting did show that Kovu WAS Scar's son, but they wrote it out) because they could not outright say that Kovu was Kiara's 2nd cousin. Not family friendly. (Remember the whole thing with Disney's "Hercules"? Where did they invent the garbage about Hercules being the son of Hera? Everyone who studied Greek mythology knows that Hercules was half mortal because Zeus cheated on Hera with a mortal! Another example of Disney clean up. )
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Post by mpo'Simba on Jan 14, 2007 9:33:54 GMT -5
The main point is that Lions kill cubs only in time of getting control over lionesses! Then every young cub in their pride will be regarded as their one!
Why lions kill young cubs? You think they would took their place, don't YOU, dear Knarrly? But how can young cub take a "throne"? I tell you... NO WAY THEY CAN!!! "Big" and "strong" lion sees no danger in little cub! This is a point for young not to fight for meal as lionesses usually do.
Lions kill only VERY YOUNG CUBS who depend on their MOTHERS! Lioness can't have a new cub (can't be pregnant) until her cub not depend on her! So male can't mate with lioness if she has got a cub! Thus, he kills young cub... If "cub" is more than one year old it's destiny is:
for him - to be expelled and die out of the pride lands;
for her - stay here, grow and become a mate for new lions.
However, if cub's father is one of lions here (in a pride), he will be expelled only after four or even five years!
Even in case Nala is definitely not Scar's daughter nothing tells him to kill her! May be she'll be "his lioness". (lion's philosophy) To have a cub of his own is one of the lion's aim in life! It's his "program".
About lioness. There is one interesting aspect of mating in nature:
as more defenseless you are as less time you can spend mating.
There's only three (should admit three) species can mate every time that want: humans, lions and dolphins. Lioness can mate with wander lions when they want to. Kovu, could be a son of any lion.
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Post by Queen_nala on Feb 24, 2007 13:30:03 GMT -5
Nuka is Scar's son, I think I saw a family tree with it. Kovu's father was just a lone lion wandering around probably. Yeah , but can you send a picture of it.
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Post by ♠Rafiki♠ on Feb 25, 2007 19:26:45 GMT -5
[Revive the old threads tour of Feb '07!]
Anyone ever think Kovu might have been an accident between a banished lioness and Mufasa?
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Post by knarrly on Feb 28, 2007 18:07:51 GMT -5
Impossible. He's too young to be Mufasa's. Mufasa died while Simba was still a cub, and Kovu is around the same age, maybe a month or two older, than Kiara.
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Post by ♠Rafiki♠ on Mar 1, 2007 14:56:00 GMT -5
Oh, my bad... I wasn't in the right state of mind when I wrote that...
[*Snickers* You don't think he coulda been Simba's accident, do ya?]
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Post by knarrly on Mar 1, 2007 18:17:37 GMT -5
That I find more likely! *lol* Think about it, the "Scar coloring gene" runs in the family. So, a kid of Simba's could turn out like Kovu, because Scar was Simba's uncle.
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Post by ♠Rafiki♠ on Mar 1, 2007 20:15:02 GMT -5
OMG, Simba, you unfaithful *******!!! lololol!
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Post by knarrly on Mar 1, 2007 20:24:07 GMT -5
*grins* It was probably before he met Nala again
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Post by ♠Rafiki♠ on Mar 1, 2007 20:24:50 GMT -5
Nah, 'Cuz Kovu would still be much too young...
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Post by mistdragon on Mar 1, 2007 22:11:46 GMT -5
But, before he met Nala, he was squishing bugs with Timon and Pumbaa! How is that possible? ._.
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Post by ♠Rafiki♠ on Mar 2, 2007 7:54:49 GMT -5
Thas what I thought... I think he maybe got to someone when he made his return.... lol
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Post by mistdragon on Mar 2, 2007 10:55:55 GMT -5
LOL! Nala would be pissed off is she realized that LOL. But wait, wouldn't this be marrying Simba's children, Kovu and Kiara, together? LOL!
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Post by ♠Rafiki♠ on Mar 2, 2007 18:30:53 GMT -5
Mrrr hrrrrr hrrrr!!
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